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SIP on iPhone: Big Deal

No, I mean that as a question, is it really a big deal?
But before we talk about that, let me make sure you understand the basics. The technical definition of an iPhone is:  a phone type device that is way over priced. The main features are: its way over priced.

Earlier this month Skype announced its support for iPhone. This was major news as it showed that people who bought a high-priced phone were still interested in a low priced phone service provider. Ok, so there was nothing surprising there, but it made news anyway. And now we have a slew of other iPhone apps that bring SIP based services to iPhone.

But will this really bring a big change to the way we make calls using smart phones? Being able to use SIP based apps to make calls from your phone basically means you are using Wi-Fi instead of costly phone minutes.
Side story: This also means, that you can then use Wi-Fi at Starbucks to make almost free calls to anywhere in the world, without using up your talk time minutes. Thus you will feel less guilty about drinking coffee that’s more expensive than gasoline!

Back to main story: Some iPhone apps claim to be able to seamlessly transition from SIP based calls to SIM-based calls. This, I think, is going to be one of the most important factors in the success of SIP on iPhone. It also has to be user-friendly. Fring has introduced some support and I’m going to check it out soon. I will try to update this blog with the results.

Have you tried SIP on your iPhone yet? Or Skype?  Like it? Not like it? As a business user of VoIP services, how important do you think it is to integrate these services to your mobile devices? Will more people comment if I offered free Starbucks?

Ritu Maheshwari

20 comments to SIP on iPhone: Big Deal

  • Oliver Bohl
    Personally I don’t think that the iPhone is overpriced. At least since no other vendor has something similar. I also have Skype on my iPhone and do some phone calls with it.
    Why? Simply because it is possible. All in one – just like the CIC. If WiFi is available – why not using it. No WiFi connection – just make a GSM call.
    I think we should have multiple communication channels – and it is a big plus if you have them all in one device – that’s the point.
  • Ashfaaq Poonawala
    I think that iphone is like a one stop box where you have many apps that are useful. I personally like the ipod which i would not have to buy separate if i owed an iphone. However if i have a SIP app on my iphone, i would like to run it whenever i am connected to a wifi. Though i wouldnt know about its VoIP application, to use with wifi, if i have a SIP app runing over it. There are a few issues that concern wifi SIP phones, esp it depends on the network, which when botched up with garbage will not allow more than a handful of simultaneous connections. Also the stability of connection will definately be a question, as i havent seen a stable piece of wifi phone being implemented using SIP. I have dealt with moto and polycom, both of which havent been able to give out a good wifi SIP. So if you are using fring, you will be able to make a couple of calls in the network, however it would be good to have numbers if it were to be marketed as a commercial app.

    - Ashfaaq Poonawala

  • Ritu,

    Thanks for your blog post. Honestly, I agree with Oliver, I don’t believe the iPhone is overpriced. There is nothing else like it. (sorry storm users)

    I have skype on my iPhone and I’m hoping and praying that I3 comes out with an app for iPhone users with a lot of the functionality that the desktop client has. instead of having to lug my laptop around, it would be much simpler and easier for me to use my iPhone to update presence, IM, or receive and make calls, or possibly send a fax… It’s already my "communication platform" hope your R&D team makes it a iPhone integration a reality…

    By the way, Avaya is developing iPhone functionality and is currently working with ATT for custom rate plans and SIP integrations to their current systems.

  • Ritu
    Oliver’n'Chris

    Some inside scoop for you is that we are looking to get the IC Client on the iPhone in the near future. I have used a very prelim version a bit and I agree with you both…its just so awesome to have the client power packed into my iPhone.
    I think I’ll have to try our Skype too…specially since I do a lot of international calling!

  • Honore'
    I do not think the iPhone is overpriced.   I do use Skype on my iPhone because I report to the CEO and he uses Skype for CEO staff calls.   When I am traveling, I can still join his Skype Conference Calls even if I am not online.  It's great to know I can use SIP over WIFI or cell.  I am never out of touch.   Oh, then there's all the other apps and of course, the music….but you wanted to know about SIP on iPhone.   I say yes!  And, I agree with Christopher…full Skype functionality on iPhone would be ideal.
  • Glenn
    Skype To Go allows you to make internationals calls without a big deal. The skype software for the iPhone allows you to control the software (check if someone is online & chat with someone in the middle of nowhere.

    Would be nice to be able to have the Client on the iPhone, so I can change my status quickly from anywhere!

    So how do I sign up for the beta? :-)

  • Phil Clapham
    Yes it absolutely is a big deal.
    Apple are targetting the Windows Mobile customers as well as ordinary users. As we all know WinMo is huge in the Enterprise, so if companies are evolving VOIP strategies that encompass SIP then Apple will be able to sell more iPhone’s on the back of supporting SIP.
    The bigger question is what will the carrier’s do to support SIP delivered voice over their cellular networks?
  • While I would really enjoy and appreciate Interaction Client (or even Interaction Supervisor) on the iPhone/iPod Touch platform, I would much rather see development directed towards OS X.
  • Dwayne Parkinson
    I’d prefer a Blackberry and even more so I’d prefer a simple low end cell phone. We’re a manufacturing company. Our plant managers and most of our key manufacturing employees aren’t chained to a desk. They’re out in the shop. They need the ability to make and receive phone calls while they’re on the floor. Some need e-mail as well so that’s why a Blackberry would be nice, but most abuse their phones, drop them, get them run over by forklifts, etc. A $600 phone isn’t a fit plus AT&T doesn’t provide coverage in our area so iPhones are really out of the picture. We don’t need maps to the nearest Chinese restaurant in Chicago and the app to level a book case. We need simple practical communication and we can’t do it. Right now we use the find me / follow me function extensively with a fleet of low end cell phones it costs a lot of extra money. In some cases we tried hooking up standard dect phones to IP gateways but that really doesn’t work.

    There simply are no good wireless phone options for I3 (as in ZERO, ZIP, NADA) so the sooner we get SIP on cell phones the better. Mechanics need phones on the floor, fork lift drivers need phones, shipping managers, line supervisors, etc. etc. Imagine buying all those folks $600 iPhones only to have them lost, stolen, dropped, run over by fork lifts (happens at an alarming rate) etc.

    It’s not some sales guy at a meeting getting the latest figures that I’m worried about. We’ve got them covered. It’s the mechanic who has to call the manufacturer from the shop floor and take readings off the machines. Where is HIS solution?

    So, from my perspective, SIP on an iPhone is interesting in much the same way that retinal scanning security is interesting. I’m sure it’s great technology but it doesn’t quite fit my needs.

    Incidentally, it’s the same story with IP phones. In the race to be the sexiest, everyone is overlooking the utilitarian market. Everybody’s racing to add more features and provide whiz bang phones, but I need a simple phone that can go in a freight elevator and be destroyed by a forklift three times a year. Where’s the IP equivalent of a $9.99 Wal-Mart slimline?

  • SIP (not Skype) on mobiles is a huge deal.
    The best examples might be among your colleagues… (uhm.. me?)

    I have been using SIP on Mobile Phones (Symbian, WinMo and iPhone) for years by now, and it saves me a lot of money and pain, considering that I am on the road all over the world a lot, I can simply hook up to the next WiFi and start chatting away for free, avoiding excessive roaming and international charges.

    I never cared about Skype though, since I dislike the fact that it uses proprietary standards over SIP, while there are so many great SIP Providers out there…

  • Jeremy Pietsch
    Need help testing that iPhone client? :)

    A Blackberry client would be fantastic considering the devices’ prevalence in the business world.

  • Wesley
    Ritu, what’s with all the iPhone animosity? I will agree that AT&T’s service is a little ridiculous, but the price of the iphone is lower than any other comparable phone. For instance, the Palm Pre is going for 300 after a 100 dollar mail in rebate and signing a new service contract. Most blackberries, with a service contract, range in the 200 mark. The Instince and the Blackberry Storm are also in that same 200 to 300 dollar range, with a new service contract. My 16gb iPhone 3GS cost me a whopping 200 bucks (with a new service contract of course). That is less than my iTouch 2g cost me. The difference is that I have an app for just about everything I can do. I want to check my bank account… there’s an app for that. I want to update facebook… there’s an app for that. I want to find how many wrecks are on the way home and see the Caltrans camera view of the highway… there’s an app for that. The point is that there is no other phone that can do what the iPhone can do for as wide a range of users as it does it for. Many “iPhone Killers” have been released and all have failed (with the exception of Google’s Android, although it is in its infancy). Don’t get me wrong, I despise Apple, but as an IT Manager, I could only stay away from this device for soo long. Eventually, I had to submit. For my job, it is irreplaceable. It is the only newer phone that allows me to VPN into my network using IPSec. It is the only phone that will then let me remote any server in my network by my choice of both VNC and/or RDP. I can also access sharepoint through an app as well as ssh/telnet any router/switch in my network. In fact, there is nothing I can do on my network that I cannot do on my iPhone… EXCEPT make SIP calls from the Interactive Intelligence client. Appearantly, there is not an app for that. You have no idea how many users I would have to move from blackberry to the iPhone if that app existed and you have no idea how many of my customers would want a phone system with an iPhone app that they could make sip calls from. I think that II should jump on this before one of the big three do. Being able to answer office calls directly and make calls from my office extension (even if it were a persistent connection with an iPhone app to control the call) would be one of the greatest assets of having my iPhone. So please, when you talk about equipment, be sure not to put inferior equipment in the same class as far superior equipment. A stone wheel is far from a performance racing tire. Are they the same thing? Of course, but one made the other obsolete. This is not the Apple Newton. The iPhone paid for itself the first weekend I had it by allowing me to resolve a systems issue while I was at the Zoo with my family. It would have taken me at least 20 minutes to get back to my car to get my laptop and boot it up. At 30,000 an hour (downtime cost) that’s more than worth the 200 we spent on the phone.
  • We HAD to get Blackberry Phones (at our expense) so that our organization could run BES. I wanted to buy an I-Phone, but maybe next time. Just got off a call from the I-phone 3-I softphone client being developed by Brad Frazer of OAS group. Sounded great!

    Of course, you may also do a Skype-Out/In on I-Phone for under $60.00 annually, if you have Wi-Fi (no Blackberry true Skype client, yet). We have a Meru Wi-Fi network, running on Merit-MichNet’s multi-gigabit backbone. Sounds like you’re in the room, REALLY.

  • Thats really very nice blog, I am impressed.
  • Ultimately, its about the choices that smartphones (iphone or android) offer in lower cost alternatives to make low cost or free calls.
    In Europe, where inbound mobile calls are free, their are providers which will connect your call by calling you first and then the other party similar to the "magic" of a cic call forward or remote station.

    The Nimbuzz client for a smart phone permits one to use their wifi connection to make a free call to a skype user which skype has restricted on certain carriers or charged for. Last week I spoke with my son in Germany via Nimbuzz on his motorola milestone to skype and it was quite clear and acceptable for the cost – $.00.
    Now I’ve read about Skype embracing sip for business which will not be free but offer seamless connectivity and this is very appealing. Ultimately, it has to be easy to use and not a solution for only the Nerd Herd. Is ININ planning on certifying with SFS (skype for sip)?

  • Ritu Maheshwari
    Noel,Thanks for the comments. We have been looking at Skype for SIP business. Currently we are not doing any formal tests, but it was easy for me to set this up on my test machine (with CIC). We hope to prioritize this sometime next year and begin more formal testing.I would love to see how our customers perceive this and whether they see this as a viable option for their businesses.
  • meh
    the iphone is overpriced especially since it requires jailbreak to fully use

    HTC is orders of magnitude better than iphone

  • Joe
    Just saw this post… Actually, using a SIP softphone on the iPhone for me has nothing to do with "free" minutes or skype. Instead it allows me to (1) make and receive calls from anywhere and appear to be in the office and (2) have a WiFi/3G (cordless) SIP phone.

    Often I will have my computer on at home and logged into our VPN. I could use a USB headset or a remote number in this case, but sometimes I have to go running across the house, unlock the screen saver, and try to click pickup before the call goes to vmail or follow me. Because I work in healthcare the screen lock is mandatory.

    Instead I use the Acrobits SIP softphone for iPhone. I tell my iphone to log into the VPN over my WiFi, then have the SIP softphone configured as a station in the xIC. So I can pickup and make business calls without having to be near my computer. It even works across 3G, so I don’t even have to be home.

    Also, I set my default station to be my iphone’s SIP softphone so that anytime my computer (and IC) isn’t running, I can run the app and get calls ringing straight to me. No follow me, no diving for the computer.

    the Acrobits product will even ring if the phone is in the background using the new multitasking features in iOS4.

    The same advantages would also be true for using a SIP softphone on Android….

  • Joe,

    I agree with your last comment, that is exactly my issue as well. Can you share the config you used to get the iPhone SIP app to work. What is the .cfg file used? Same as say the one for a Cisco 7940G? What was the workstation config in the I3 Admin tool. What you have outlined is exactly what i want to test in my environment.

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